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		<title>Comment on Finding Ways to Walk Together by John D Murray</title>
		<link>http://reconciliationbarometer.org/2012/03/finding-ways-to-walk-together/#comment-2097</link>
		<dc:creator>John D Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 04:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be interested to get more information about the Finding Ways to Walk Together Initiative written about in the Burger on 2012.05.17

Thank you, blessings for the week,

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be interested to get more information about the Finding Ways to Walk Together Initiative written about in the Burger on 2012.05.17</p>
<p>Thank you, blessings for the week,</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>Comment on An ongoing search for Kenya&#8217;s panacea by Allan Ngari</title>
		<link>http://reconciliationbarometer.org/volume-nine-2011/an-ongoing-search-for-kenyas-panacea/#comment-2037</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Ngari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 09:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right Astère. International criminal trials can influence prospects for reconciliation in Kenya and other states in transition through an educative exposure of the practices of the past  in transitioning states as against the structured respect for the due process practiced at international courts and tribunals. This educative role can shape a transiting states adherence to the rule of law in accordance with internationally accepted standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right Astère. International criminal trials can influence prospects for reconciliation in Kenya and other states in transition through an educative exposure of the practices of the past  in transitioning states as against the structured respect for the due process practiced at international courts and tribunals. This educative role can shape a transiting states adherence to the rule of law in accordance with internationally accepted standards.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An ongoing search for Kenya&#8217;s panacea by Astère Muyango</title>
		<link>http://reconciliationbarometer.org/volume-nine-2011/an-ongoing-search-for-kenyas-panacea/#comment-1972</link>
		<dc:creator>Astère Muyango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 13:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that educating people on confronting wrong-doing of governors at earlier stages would be very important in the conflicts’ prevention area. 
Thank you for your deep analysis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that educating people on confronting wrong-doing of governors at earlier stages would be very important in the conflicts’ prevention area.<br />
Thank you for your deep analysis</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Cape race debate: All a-Twitter by Wayne Mckay</title>
		<link>http://reconciliationbarometer.org/newsletter/volume-ten-2012/the-cape-race-debate-all-a-twitter/#comment-1831</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Mckay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 16:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article . Very real indeed . Well done . More please</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article . Very real indeed . Well done . More please</p>
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		<title>Comment on Local elections like nobody&#8217;s business by Mojela Mokgoke</title>
		<link>http://reconciliationbarometer.org/volume-nine-2011/local-elections-like-nobodys-business/#comment-1097</link>
		<dc:creator>Mojela Mokgoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 10:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesed in the topic and would like to be part of participants in future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesed in the topic and would like to be part of participants in future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Jim Powell South Africa</title>
		<link>http://reconciliationbarometer.org/about-2/#comment-1065</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Powell South Africa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 03:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politicians are the employees of the voters

Our current political system in South Africa is better than pre 1994 but worse than others in its content and application. We now have a constitution. The biggest failing in the system is a lack of accountability. The primary allegiance the proportional representatives have is to their own political party. The 50% of the local government councillors that have a constituency can at least be identified by the voters but still are not accountable. We, the voters, are the shareholders of the South African government and employers of politicians. Voters choose the politicians who are employed, pay their salaries and voters must be able to directly control the politicians.

A combination of the following should work the best for the employers of politicians, the voters:
1. Constituency (Wards at all three levels of Government)
2. Top-up proportional representation to ensure that the representation reflects the will of the people
3. Recall of politicians (firing of politicians by the voters before the end of their 5 year term)
4. And referendum with initiative mechanisms where the electorate can reject, change or propose legislation and change the constitution.

The ward system produces a first past the post system, not reflecting the overall wish of the voters.

The following system will give the overall % as reflected by the voters:
1. Ward and PR vote as currently
2. A political party that obtained 60% of the wards and 50% of the PR vote would not have a PR seat 
3. A political Party that obtained 20% of the wards and 30% of the PR vote would have 10% PR seats allocated to bring it up to 30% 
4. A political Party that obtained 0% of the wards and 20% of the PR vote would have 20% PR seats allocated to bring it up to 20% 

*Charles Bukowski quotes*  “The difference between a democracy (as normally practiced) and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don&#039;t have to waste your time voting.” 

Our current system can be called a 5 year dictatorship.

An employment advert for a politician in South Africa under the current system (and generally throughout the world) should read as follows:

Applicants are requested to submit their CV&#039;s for the position of politician:

1. The interview will last for a number of months.
2. Many thousands, or even millions, of the politicians’ potential employers (voters) will decide whether the politicians’ application will be successful
3. Should the politician be successful, the politician is guaranteed employment for 5 years unless the politician resigns, dies, is found guilty of a serious crime (we can talk about this one) or upsets the group of people (political party) that the politician chooses to be employed with.
4. The politicians’ CV does not have to be accurate or truthful
5. The politician can ignore the employers (the voters) for the whole of the 5 years, and even go against the wishes or the politicians’ employers (voters).
6. The politicians’ employers are relying on the goodwill and integrity of the politicians, to act honestly and with dignity. But if the politicians choose not to, there is nothing that your employers, can do about it.
7. The politicians’ employers (voters) understand that the basic rules of operation (SA Constitution) are, in many ways, much better than the vast majority of basic rules of many other countries and so much better than pre 1994. The basic rules were created by the politicians and in many ways for the benefit of the politicians and detriment of the employer (voter) and as a result the politicians (employees) will be in charge of the employers (voters).
8. Voters recognise that many politicians, from 1994, have done sterling jobs and others have done a terrible job but we, the voters (employers), will not able to remove the politicians from the voters’ employment or payroll if the voters are not happy with the politicians’ performance.
9. The voters (employers) will not be able to control the politicians (employees).
10. If the politicians are successful the politicians could change the basic rules (constitution) then the politician (employee), would then not govern us but would have to operate in the voters’ interest. This will be under the politicians’ control and we recognize from the past that politicians are not likely give the power to the voters (employers).
11. The voters (employers) would like the politicians to listen to the voters all the time and do as the voters instruct the politicians, not just play lip service for a month and then disappear for 5 years. It is the politicians’ choice whether you will do this.
12. The voters would like you to create a system to have an individual at every level of government that we can go to, so the voters would like to have constituencies at Central, Provincial and Local levels. Politicians, please put this in if you are elected
13. We will rename the position of &quot;politician&quot; to &quot;5 year dictator&quot; since this more accurately describes the position on offer. When the politicians give the power to the voters (employers), the voters will rename the position to “representative”.

We accept that this is a long road to travel. There are many steps to take so that the community will believe that they are in control of their destination. Let us all take the journey together.

Look at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy
http://www.swissworld.org/media/political_system/htdocs_en/index.html


Jim Powell (+27) 0118041335 0825712856 jimpowell@mweb.co.za</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politicians are the employees of the voters</p>
<p>Our current political system in South Africa is better than pre 1994 but worse than others in its content and application. We now have a constitution. The biggest failing in the system is a lack of accountability. The primary allegiance the proportional representatives have is to their own political party. The 50% of the local government councillors that have a constituency can at least be identified by the voters but still are not accountable. We, the voters, are the shareholders of the South African government and employers of politicians. Voters choose the politicians who are employed, pay their salaries and voters must be able to directly control the politicians.</p>
<p>A combination of the following should work the best for the employers of politicians, the voters:<br />
1. Constituency (Wards at all three levels of Government)<br />
2. Top-up proportional representation to ensure that the representation reflects the will of the people<br />
3. Recall of politicians (firing of politicians by the voters before the end of their 5 year term)<br />
4. And referendum with initiative mechanisms where the electorate can reject, change or propose legislation and change the constitution.</p>
<p>The ward system produces a first past the post system, not reflecting the overall wish of the voters.</p>
<p>The following system will give the overall % as reflected by the voters:<br />
1. Ward and PR vote as currently<br />
2. A political party that obtained 60% of the wards and 50% of the PR vote would not have a PR seat<br />
3. A political Party that obtained 20% of the wards and 30% of the PR vote would have 10% PR seats allocated to bring it up to 30%<br />
4. A political Party that obtained 0% of the wards and 20% of the PR vote would have 20% PR seats allocated to bring it up to 20% </p>
<p>*Charles Bukowski quotes*  “The difference between a democracy (as normally practiced) and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don&#8217;t have to waste your time voting.” </p>
<p>Our current system can be called a 5 year dictatorship.</p>
<p>An employment advert for a politician in South Africa under the current system (and generally throughout the world) should read as follows:</p>
<p>Applicants are requested to submit their CV&#8217;s for the position of politician:</p>
<p>1. The interview will last for a number of months.<br />
2. Many thousands, or even millions, of the politicians’ potential employers (voters) will decide whether the politicians’ application will be successful<br />
3. Should the politician be successful, the politician is guaranteed employment for 5 years unless the politician resigns, dies, is found guilty of a serious crime (we can talk about this one) or upsets the group of people (political party) that the politician chooses to be employed with.<br />
4. The politicians’ CV does not have to be accurate or truthful<br />
5. The politician can ignore the employers (the voters) for the whole of the 5 years, and even go against the wishes or the politicians’ employers (voters).<br />
6. The politicians’ employers are relying on the goodwill and integrity of the politicians, to act honestly and with dignity. But if the politicians choose not to, there is nothing that your employers, can do about it.<br />
7. The politicians’ employers (voters) understand that the basic rules of operation (SA Constitution) are, in many ways, much better than the vast majority of basic rules of many other countries and so much better than pre 1994. The basic rules were created by the politicians and in many ways for the benefit of the politicians and detriment of the employer (voter) and as a result the politicians (employees) will be in charge of the employers (voters).<br />
8. Voters recognise that many politicians, from 1994, have done sterling jobs and others have done a terrible job but we, the voters (employers), will not able to remove the politicians from the voters’ employment or payroll if the voters are not happy with the politicians’ performance.<br />
9. The voters (employers) will not be able to control the politicians (employees).<br />
10. If the politicians are successful the politicians could change the basic rules (constitution) then the politician (employee), would then not govern us but would have to operate in the voters’ interest. This will be under the politicians’ control and we recognize from the past that politicians are not likely give the power to the voters (employers).<br />
11. The voters (employers) would like the politicians to listen to the voters all the time and do as the voters instruct the politicians, not just play lip service for a month and then disappear for 5 years. It is the politicians’ choice whether you will do this.<br />
12. The voters would like you to create a system to have an individual at every level of government that we can go to, so the voters would like to have constituencies at Central, Provincial and Local levels. Politicians, please put this in if you are elected<br />
13. We will rename the position of &#8220;politician&#8221; to &#8220;5 year dictator&#8221; since this more accurately describes the position on offer. When the politicians give the power to the voters (employers), the voters will rename the position to “representative”.</p>
<p>We accept that this is a long road to travel. There are many steps to take so that the community will believe that they are in control of their destination. Let us all take the journey together.</p>
<p>Look at:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy</a><br />
<a href="http://www.swissworld.org/media/political_system/htdocs_en/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.swissworld.org/media/political_system/htdocs_en/index.html</a></p>
<p>Jim Powell (+27) 0118041335 0825712856 <a href="mailto:jimpowell@mweb.co.za">jimpowell@mweb.co.za</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on A tribunal on apartheid? by Dr Chris Roux</title>
		<link>http://reconciliationbarometer.org/volume-nine-2011/a-tribunal-on-apartheid/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Chris Roux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rupert, 

I am curious why in the face of all forms of perniciuos racism and genocide committed in the world in the last century you are so intent on continuosly rekindling the flames of the tragedy that occured during the nationalist apartheid period.  Does your focus on history delimit you to South Africa only? Before you go down the track and argue that refererring to enormous social crimes committed elsewhere does not absolve apartheid, may I qualify that I am referring to the healing process that followed large scale social inhumanties committed against people. Or are you saying that the atrocities, rape, plunder and massacre of people in the name of war or invasion does not count in the scale of human suffering as much as racial discrimination does? There are many nations and ethnic groups who are today recovering and growing out of their terrible pasts and yet one reads very little about pepetuating memories and hatred in the way you seem to favour. Twenty five thousand Afrikander women and children were murdered by the British through internment camps and the loss of wealth caused by the war is incalculable. Twelve million people died in the concentratio camps of Germany. Millions of Chinese died horrifically during the Japanese invasion. The horrors inflicted on South Koreans by communist North Korea are beyong description. The genocide commited by Stalin and Mao in their social engineering endeavours are of an order that would competely annhilate the population of South Africa. These are just but a few examples but most importantly these are nations that have recocered and rebuilt rather than continuously and obsessively relive, reconstruct and immortalize the wrongs suffered. That is why people with greater wisdom than you lead the Truth and Reconciliation process.  Its about healing, not vengeance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rupert, </p>
<p>I am curious why in the face of all forms of perniciuos racism and genocide committed in the world in the last century you are so intent on continuosly rekindling the flames of the tragedy that occured during the nationalist apartheid period.  Does your focus on history delimit you to South Africa only? Before you go down the track and argue that refererring to enormous social crimes committed elsewhere does not absolve apartheid, may I qualify that I am referring to the healing process that followed large scale social inhumanties committed against people. Or are you saying that the atrocities, rape, plunder and massacre of people in the name of war or invasion does not count in the scale of human suffering as much as racial discrimination does? There are many nations and ethnic groups who are today recovering and growing out of their terrible pasts and yet one reads very little about pepetuating memories and hatred in the way you seem to favour. Twenty five thousand Afrikander women and children were murdered by the British through internment camps and the loss of wealth caused by the war is incalculable. Twelve million people died in the concentratio camps of Germany. Millions of Chinese died horrifically during the Japanese invasion. The horrors inflicted on South Koreans by communist North Korea are beyong description. The genocide commited by Stalin and Mao in their social engineering endeavours are of an order that would competely annhilate the population of South Africa. These are just but a few examples but most importantly these are nations that have recocered and rebuilt rather than continuously and obsessively relive, reconstruct and immortalize the wrongs suffered. That is why people with greater wisdom than you lead the Truth and Reconciliation process.  Its about healing, not vengeance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Survey by Phillip Stanley Bougard</title>
		<link>http://reconciliationbarometer.org/survey/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Stanley Bougard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 04:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to seek legal assistance, to initiate a South African Constitutional Court Challenge, for what I see......as that evil, phony and deceptive &quot;tripartite alliance&quot; No South African voter....VOTED for The South African Communist Party, yet they have appoximately 53 odd, South African Communist Party members in Parliament in Cape Town, and 2 ministers in government. This is IDEOLOGICAL DECEPTION. The South African Communist Party does not even have a few thousand, paid up, card carrying members, so they really have NO MANDATE from the South African voter, other than, by deception. I need a Constitutional Law Expert, to advise how one can proceed towards a Constitutional Court Challenge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to seek legal assistance, to initiate a South African Constitutional Court Challenge, for what I see&#8230;&#8230;as that evil, phony and deceptive &#8220;tripartite alliance&#8221; No South African voter&#8230;.VOTED for The South African Communist Party, yet they have appoximately 53 odd, South African Communist Party members in Parliament in Cape Town, and 2 ministers in government. This is IDEOLOGICAL DECEPTION. The South African Communist Party does not even have a few thousand, paid up, card carrying members, so they really have NO MANDATE from the South African voter, other than, by deception. I need a Constitutional Law Expert, to advise how one can proceed towards a Constitutional Court Challenge</p>
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		<title>Comment on South Africa documents the undocumented by Paul</title>
		<link>http://reconciliationbarometer.org/volume-nine-2011/south-africa-documents-the-undocumented/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the section 11.2 (short term work permit) an ongoing procedure for consultants wishing to go from Asian countries? Are they feasible at the moment or only way is a long term permit in case of 4-6 months assignments in South Africa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the section 11.2 (short term work permit) an ongoing procedure for consultants wishing to go from Asian countries? Are they feasible at the moment or only way is a long term permit in case of 4-6 months assignments in South Africa.</p>
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		<title>Comment on South Africa’s rainbow is fading by Glenn Robertson</title>
		<link>http://reconciliationbarometer.org/volume-nine-2011/south-africas-rainbow-is-fading/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the finest pieces of writing that I have read in a long time. As a so called coloured South African, it pains me to see what the heinous apartheid system has done to us as a society and what the group ares act is still doing to us a people. Why is there still so much segregation and so much apartheid in Churches, in Shopping Malls, in Restaurants, on our streets, in our Schools? What are we as parents doing or not doing to change Society? We started a Church called Kaleidoscope on the 3rd April 2005, and it is our purpose to rebuild nor a Rainbow Nation, because in the Rainbow, the colours still remain separate whereas in a Kaleidoscope, when the light of God&#039;s LOVE shines on the broken glass and mirrors, all the colours and shades become a melting pot of beauty! Check out www.kaleidoscope.org.za Viva Kaleidoscope Nation Viva! God Bless you Charlene Houston.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the finest pieces of writing that I have read in a long time. As a so called coloured South African, it pains me to see what the heinous apartheid system has done to us as a society and what the group ares act is still doing to us a people. Why is there still so much segregation and so much apartheid in Churches, in Shopping Malls, in Restaurants, on our streets, in our Schools? What are we as parents doing or not doing to change Society? We started a Church called Kaleidoscope on the 3rd April 2005, and it is our purpose to rebuild nor a Rainbow Nation, because in the Rainbow, the colours still remain separate whereas in a Kaleidoscope, when the light of God&#8217;s LOVE shines on the broken glass and mirrors, all the colours and shades become a melting pot of beauty! Check out <a href="http://www.kaleidoscope.org.za" rel="nofollow">http://www.kaleidoscope.org.za</a> Viva Kaleidoscope Nation Viva! God Bless you Charlene Houston.</p>
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